Wait, do helicopters die? Can helicopter crashes die? Openlydialectic (talk ) 05:43, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't qualify as RD, changed to standard nomination. Added a basic blurb, but also oppose on being a minor aviation incident. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat ) 05:49, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha can be an RD nom. – Muboshgu (talk ) 05:52, 28 October 2018 (UTC) If he didn't survive. –
Muboshgu ( talk ) 06:28, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
WAIT - For context, the helicopter was an
AgustaWestland AW139 , a medium sized helicopter capable of seating 7 passengers. Owner Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha is confirmed to have been on board. There are no reports confirming that he has survived, but no confirmation of fatalities at the moment. If it turns out he was killed, then a blurb mentioning him and the accident (both bolded) would be in order. Mjroots (talk ) 05:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Support - Notable but terrible accident, sorry for the Leicester FC fans. STSC (talk ) 06:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment - The blurb as presently worded is almost certainly inaccurate, as reports are that there were at least four people on board the helicopter at the time of the crash. At the very least, someone had to be piloting that helicopter aside from the owner. That said, this might be a good time for editors to start prepping the article for Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, as he is likely to have an RD nom in a few hours. ( NorthernFalcon (talk ) 07:02, 28 October 2018 (UTC))
Per my earlier comments, we are waiting on official confirmation of the number of casualties (if any). Already covered in article that at least two people are involved. Mjroots (talk ) 07:19, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Oppose minor crash getting a disproportionate amount of coverage. While an article on the crash can probably withstand an AFD because of the likely demise of the notable Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, it's not newsworthy enough to go beyond RD. The Rambling Man (talk ) 07:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Oppose It's a single private helicopter crash that doesn't appear to have directly involved large number of people or major structure on the ground. -- KTC (talk ) 08:28, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Oppose private helicopter crash, albeit one famous person was on board. Also article is very short, and not really enough details. The blurb- "At least one person died"- doesn't appear to be confirmed, and in fact isn't in the article anywhere. If
Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha is confirmed dead, then a RD for him would be acceptable (but probably nominate that separately). Joseph 2302 (talk) 09:27, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
RD: Ntozake Shange
Article: Ntozake Shange (talk , history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [1]
Nominator: Muboshgu (talk • give credit )
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD .
– Muboshgu (talk ) 02:57, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Oppose . While text of article is referenced, the awards and works sections are unreferenced.
Capitalistroadster (talk ) 07:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Oppose Early life needs more referencing, and latter sections (as noted above) are woefully cited. The Rambling Man (talk ) 07:18, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
(Posted) Pittsburgh synagogue shooting
Article: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting
(talk , history)
Blurb: A shooting at a synagogue kills 10 people in Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania , United States.
Alternative blurb: Eight people are shot at a synagogue in Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania , United States.
News source(s): CBS News , AP ,
BBC , Guardian
Nominator: EternalNomad (talk • give credit )
Nominator's comments: Appears to have been religiously motivated. EternalNomad (talk ) 16:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment the article quality isn't there yet, and the situation isn't clear enough yet to assess impact. power~enwiki (π, ν ) 16:11, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Article name updated after move; there's every possibility this will be moved more times in the next day without move full-protection. power~enwiki (π, ν ) 18:13, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support it's complete enough now.
power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:28, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Wait We don't know enough right now. If this turns out to be terrorism related I may support. However, if this turns out to be just another random mass shooting my support will become less likely. - Ad Orientem (talk ) 17:00, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
If the shooter yelled "All Jews must die", as is reported, yeah I think that counts as terrorism. – Muboshgu ( talk ) 17:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support on merit, pending further expansion Hate crime, should be enough of a body count for you
WP:MINIMUMDEATHS folk. –
Muboshgu ( talk ) 17:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Ready to go. – Muboshgu (talk ) 19:31, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment Added an ALT1 blurb that follows other ITN stories in having the death toll first. Sounder Bruce 17:21, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support This is one of the biggest terrorist attacks motivated by anti-semitism in a long time. This shooting will probably have massive implications. Alex of Canada (talk ) 17:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support Moving from "wait." This is now being treated as a hate crime which means it is most likely some form of domestic terrorism. That's enough for me. - Ad Orientem (talk ) 17:51, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support . This is not the run-of-the-mill US mass shooting, but an instance of racial/religious hate crime. Had the perpetrator been a Muslim it would have been called terrorism many times by now (although undoubtedly prematurely in at least some cases), but I can't immediately see this in reliable sources currently. Thryduulf (talk ) 17:56, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment I prefer the original blurb as the alt is incorrect - while eight people have been confirmed dead, many more were shot. Thryduulf (talk ) 18:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Well, since it's been confirmed that the minimum deaths for terrorist incidents inside the United States is zero, consensus dictates that I support this.
WaltCip (talk ) 18:14, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
@WaltCip : What are you on about? There is no minimum deaths criterion for anything, whether that is terrorism inside the USA or something else. Thryduulf (talk ) 18:41, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
He's apparently referring to the pipe bomb guy. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk ) 19:04, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support alt blurb (alt0 is fine) Support original blurb (per Thryduulf) actual terrorist attack by gun at a gun-free zone with a pretty bad death toll – at least eight dead. Article is neutral and sourced. It's not up to us to judge whether it's random and whether it's terrorism. We won't know if it's 100% wiki-voice terrorism until someone is convicted...
wumbolo ^^^ 18:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support - and if there are issues with the article, by the time this discussion is sufficiently concluded, the article will be fine. Volunteer Marek 18:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Comment . How about someone write an article about the synagogue? Here's a couple sources: [2] [3] . It can be linked from a blurb, e.g. "A mass shooting kills eight people at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania , United States." wumbolo ^^^ 19:13, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Not really necessary: in the spirit of BLP1E, a local church should not be notable for a single event, and that alone wont' make it pass WP:NORG . -- MASEM (t) 19:16, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
There is some coverage from before the shooting. Combined with the shooting, it should be enough. wumbolo ^^^ 19:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Support L 293 D (☎ • ✎) 19:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
BREAKING. TEN people were killed
wumbolo ^^^ 19:16, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
AP says 10, BBC and Guardian say 11. (Added as sources above.) – Sca (talk ) 20:30, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
I posted with 11 as that is what the article currently says, sourced to CBS.
Black Kite (talk) 20:33, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, Wumbolo 's source at Twitter is actually AP. Sca (talk ) 20:39, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Posted . It's fairly obvious that this is going to be posted, so I don't see any reason to delay that given that the article is now in good shape. Black Kite (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Post-posting support . Article well-updated, receiving a lot of press coverage globally. Spencer T•C 02:16, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
@Black Kite : please wikilink Tree of Life – Or L'Simcha , article created by Yoninah .
wumbolo ^^^ 09:45, 28 October 2018